Tell us about your book.
Ir-rev-rend refers to what a lot of people think about me. I'm real, raw, and probably different from what you would expect in a pastor.Do you think we put on a "pretense"?
It's a bunch of stories of real-life people that I've met, and how we met God.
I definitely do. We try to put on an image to impress each other, and sometimes even to impress God.What kind of facade do we put on?
Sometimes I think that's what stands between us and a real-life image of God to other people.
Sometimes we pretend like everything's perfect all the time. We get up in the mornings and say the wrong things.How can we get real?
I think with parents there's a huge pressure to produce the perfect child.We put pressure on them that God doesn't put on us.
We do it in several ways. In the context of a large gathering, we try to be as real as we possibly can.Is there a tension between going for excellence and being raw?
One thing I've discovered about this generation is they just want to be real.
In our church, the small group is definitely the core.
You've gotta be discerning with who you share the biggest flaws of your life with, which is why we have small groups in our church.You talk about money in the book. Tell us about that.
I believe God made us in His image. We do everything the best we can possibly do, but remember that the outcome doesn't depend on us, it depends on Him.
You've got the balance between the concepts of generosity and prosperity.Out of all the areas, what's the one you deal with the most?
I deal with that in the book. Jesus talks about money more than anything else.
There's a nerve that connects our heart to our wallet. Oftentimes our wallet is the last thing to get saved.
My dad's motto was always "Err on the side of generosity."
To me, it's probably discouragement. There are things that happen every day when the Enemy tries to get us off track and discouraged so God can't use us.
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